Posts by Vachi 8 He Is

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I must be missing something...

by stillin in

i keep hearing this chatter regarding a new rule regarding the holding of your spouse's hand during a congregation prayer, which, i agree, would be ridiculous.

but where did this rumor start, or was it just some free-lancing elder expressing his own opinion, which escalated to this ripple effect that i see here?.

i haven't seen any less holding of hands at the kh i go to....

Vachi 8 He Is

And how do we get UNstumbled from such nonsense? Practice it. 10 years ago it would've stumbled people if you told them they could have their entire music library on a device that fit in their pocket. 30-40 years ago it stumbled people to show a man and wife in the same bed, however we know at some point they had to get in the same bed at some point in time or else most of us wouldn't be here. 517 years ago people were stumbled over ChrisCo's voyage to prove the Earth "she isa round". The only way we can get past things and not stumble is if we push it to the limit and walk along the razors edge, don't look down just keep our head, or we'll be finished, something something something and something you know, throttle wide open like a bat outta hell and crash the gate. (crash the gate) Wait.......what was I talking about?

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"Blinded by Satan"

by Sour Grapes in

the brother who gave the public talk on sunday said.

that people who are not jehovah's witnesses are.

blinded by satan.

Vachi 8 He Is

I remember being punished for this very thing back in elementary school. The teacher had the class design paper snowflakes or snowsleds or some other wintery type thing. The class was to put Merry Christmas on it, but of course when it came time for me to do it the teacher found a loophole and said well what if you put season's greetings on it? I thought a sec about it and said ok because to me this wasn't a loophole it was just saying "welcome the winter season" as far as I was concerned. Well you would think I ran a stolen car into a bank with the intent to rob it while flipping the bird to the cops by the way I was beat over that BS.

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Claws, venom, sharp teeth and other defensive things.....

by Vachi 8 He Is in

another thing i don't get is how all these animals have these destructive body parts, yet i'm to believe they were going to all be herbivores had a&e not sinned?

i pose this question to my dub aunt and she goes "animals weren't eating each other before the flood but they the ones outside of the ark had to survive some kinda way so they took to eating each other.".

now, this begs a series of questions: if the animals could survive the flood, what was the point of noah collecting all of them in the first place?

Vachi 8 He Is

I just wish I could get them to listen to what's being shoveled by NOT listening to what's being shoveled. If you went to a Microsoft convention they'll tell you they make the best products. You have to understand why they say this, how it would make you feel if it were true, and who it benefits if you go along with it. "Keep on the watch/loosing gods favor/don't be misled" sustains the ones who are in. The focus on children secures their future. Sarah would not have gone with Reese if she didn't see T-101 or someTHING try to kill her. So the whole "That Terminator is out there..." speech would've fallen on deaf ears. So what do dubs do? Hell, let's make the whole lot of them Terminators, everybody is out to getcha. It sucks to live like that.

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Claws, venom, sharp teeth and other defensive things.....

by Vachi 8 He Is in

another thing i don't get is how all these animals have these destructive body parts, yet i'm to believe they were going to all be herbivores had a&e not sinned?

i pose this question to my dub aunt and she goes "animals weren't eating each other before the flood but they the ones outside of the ark had to survive some kinda way so they took to eating each other.".

now, this begs a series of questions: if the animals could survive the flood, what was the point of noah collecting all of them in the first place?

Vachi 8 He Is

Another thing I don't get is how all these animals have these destructive body parts, yet I'm to believe they were going to all be herbivores had A&E not sinned? I pose this question to my dub aunt and she goes "Animals weren't eating each other before the flood but they the ones outside of the ark had to survive some kinda way so they took to eating each other."

Now, this begs a series of questions: If the animals could survive the flood, what was the point of Noah collecting all of them in the first place? If they lived on Earth for at least hundreds of years before the flood, what sense does it make to say that just because it rained for a month and a week that it somehow infused this "dog eat dog" trait within them when there was none before? I mean, it's freekin' water. Since Jerkovah can resurrect every damn thing why didn't he just let Noah and fam go into ark by themselves and take a few chickens, roosters (for eggs) and fruits to eat off of instead of having all these animals peeing and crapping all over the place making that water tight ark just unbearable, and just resurrect the animals after the flood? Also is it not arrogant to say that humans are the catalyst for the resurrection of other species? Meaning every animal that has become extinct has stayed extinct, they haven't been resurrected. Why not? They obviously served some purpose or they wouldn't have been created. So why would they only AFTER MAN cries "peace" and the end come? If were so special and made in his image, why did Jerkovah make the animals first? I mean it went like this: jesus > angels > animals > humans. And kinda off topic but what did he make angels for anyway? He doesn't need help from them.

And then Morpheus says "You've been living in a dream world Neo......."

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Another WTF moment...............

by Vachi 8 He Is in

well a few actually......so i'm sitting in the we'redumb hall today, and the core of the topic is recognizing gods qualities through jesus actions and also how jesus spent eons of time with god learning what his father does.

i gotta question: what purpose does that serve?

is god preparing jesus to do something that he himself is tired of or is no longer able to do?

Vachi 8 He Is

Blue, I can only go by what he said. What he MEANT to say as far as I can tell is what YOU would've said in the situation. Who says that the brudduh didn't say exactly what he wanted to say?

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Another WTF moment...............

by Vachi 8 He Is in

well a few actually......so i'm sitting in the we'redumb hall today, and the core of the topic is recognizing gods qualities through jesus actions and also how jesus spent eons of time with god learning what his father does.

i gotta question: what purpose does that serve?

is god preparing jesus to do something that he himself is tired of or is no longer able to do?

Vachi 8 He Is

There's so much stuff that a person can lose gods favor with. It comes to a point where you're all "screw this". Cause no matter what we do that bum will never be satisifed. I'm picturing Al Pacino in Devil's Advocate explaining how god yo-yos on stuff.

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Another WTF moment...............

by Vachi 8 He Is in

well a few actually......so i'm sitting in the we'redumb hall today, and the core of the topic is recognizing gods qualities through jesus actions and also how jesus spent eons of time with god learning what his father does.

i gotta question: what purpose does that serve?

is god preparing jesus to do something that he himself is tired of or is no longer able to do?

Vachi 8 He Is

Lol you're right. jerkovah please forgive me, in jesus name amen. Now..........where is that hypnotoad?

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Why I could not be a JW

by littlebuddy in

i could not be a jw because of the following.

i am very weary of churches, org,etc that are so controlled, with little freedom of thought that any expression of difference and one could be on the way out.

also i feel the jw's have the wrong jehovah, wrong jesus, wrong holy spirit, wrong view of salvation, who goes to heaven, the lost, how the lost spend eternity, wrong view of israel, the 144,000, birthdays, etc.

Vachi 8 He Is

My guess..?

"I'm going to be honest with you. I hate this place, this zoo, this prison, this reality, whatever you want to call it. I can't stand it any longer.
It's the smell. If there is such a thing. I feel.. saturated by it. I can taste your stink. And every time I do I feel I have somehow been infected by it, 
it's repulsive."

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Why I could not be a JW

by littlebuddy in

i could not be a jw because of the following.

i am very weary of churches, org,etc that are so controlled, with little freedom of thought that any expression of difference and one could be on the way out.

also i feel the jw's have the wrong jehovah, wrong jesus, wrong holy spirit, wrong view of salvation, who goes to heaven, the lost, how the lost spend eternity, wrong view of israel, the 144,000, birthdays, etc.

Vachi 8 He Is

*Takes off my cap and hits you in the head with it* Nah just kidding Little Buddy, welcome to the board. :)

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Another WTF moment...............

by Vachi 8 He Is in

well a few actually......so i'm sitting in the we'redumb hall today, and the core of the topic is recognizing gods qualities through jesus actions and also how jesus spent eons of time with god learning what his father does.

i gotta question: what purpose does that serve?

is god preparing jesus to do something that he himself is tired of or is no longer able to do?

Vachi 8 He Is

Well a few actually......So I'm sitting in the We'reDumb Hall today, and the core of the topic is recognizing gods qualities through jesus actions and also how jesus spent eons of time with god learning what his father does. I gotta question: What purpose does that serve? Is god preparing jesus to do something that he himself is tired of or is no longer able to do? We're made in gods image yet god decides to create dinosaurs and other animals, even the lowly roach first? What's up with that?

2. Of course you know dubs put stock in the service at the expense of you know.......actually having A LIFE, but how was it ok for god to give Solomon wealth yet we aren't supposed to get distracted by material things? Isn't that pick and choose or playing favorites on gods part? What's up with that?

3. They also stress the need to work dilligently in the preaching work by basically asking if we weigh or time spent in the field against everything else we do for recreation, are they balanced? The underlying core of this is "If you're having more fun than what we tell you to have, then straighten up."

4. And why.....what possible reason could there be for god to exist for even eons before christ if he's just gonna one day up and create things that later have to strive to be like god? I mean everything before creation had to have been god, so why branch off into all these avenues if the goal is to have them be like god? He could've just stayed how he was.

5. One of the sisduhs makes a comment that god actually spoke 3 times, and all three times was concerning his son jesus. Umm.....are you sure? I seem to recall a point in Genesis where after A&E sinned god was calling out to them. A&E came out of hiding and said "we were hiding because we were naked." At which point god SAYS "who told you you were naked?" I mean did this totally fly out of their memory or what?

6. May 15th Fauxtower, page 30, paragraph 9. Quoted from bible at Matthew 3: v 17. "This is my son the beloved, whom I have approved." They read it as it is printed ONE TIME. All the other times it went like this: "This is my son the beloved, LISTEN TO HIM". And I'm sitting there like WTF!!! They just changed the meaning of the whole verse. I can approve a type of cereal for my family to consume but this by no means says they should strictly eat this kind and only this kind of cereal. But even this WTF moment pales in comparison to what I'm going to tell you next.

7. A brudduh makes an analogy that likens christ relationship with god to that of a sponge, and says, and I quote "It's like if you take a sponge and place it in water, well you don't see the water anymore because it's now a part of the sponge. christ followed god so closely that to mimic him is to mimic jehovah." The one on stage goes "Yes, yes that's true. and we're fortunate to be able to do that aren't we?" Now, I don't say anything, I simply get up, fake like I'm going to the bathroom, and walk out into the parking lot. When my aunt comes out after the meeting, I tell her I don't want her to say anything, I'm just going to make a statement. It seems I have to put this disclaimer here or else she'll derail the conversation. So I tell her that a sponge is made up of fibers that absorb water. The reason why one doesn't see the water once that happens is because the water is trapped between these fibers, but at no point does the water become PART of the sponge. She starts trying to justify what that idiot said and asks me is water a part of you?"But that's not.......""Answer the question.""Yes water is mixed in with things like blood and other things in me.... but that's not what I'm talking about. If you take a sponge full of water and wring it out, water and only water falls out. If what he said were true then anytime water went into a sponge it would cause the sponge to grow.""Well it DOES grow...." I could see she wanted me to go into outer space with her so I had to bring her Major Tom-ing self back to Earth. "At no point does the waters molecular structure become SPONGE, it's being held by the sponge but at no point does it become PART OF the sponge bottomline." Then she saw a study of hers and hopped out of the car. I mean it felt like that episode of ST:TNG where Data loses his memory and winds up on this primitive planet and tries to explain to the head teacher that just because wood can catch on fire doesn't mean fire is IN the wood. I swear if the place caught on fire I wouldn't pee, spit or cover it in crap to put it out.